4/20 PLENARY LOG -- 3


@who
Name	Location	Connected Idle Time Doing/Idle
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Juggler	Plenary room	an hour	a second
SamanthaW	Plenary room	17 minutes 9 seconds
Mark	Center	an hour	15 seconds
MichaelO	Center	47 seconds 18 seconds
Rusche	Plenary room	an hour	20 seconds
Carole	Plenary room	48 minutes 28 seconds
RobertC	Stuart Curran Keynot 29 minutes 2 minutes
SusanA	Stuart Curran Keynot an hour	2 minutes
bro	Plenary room	39 minutes 3 minutes
Curran	Plenary room	14 minutes 3 minutes
A guest	Plenary room	36 minutes 24 minutes

Total: 11 people, 10 of whom have been active recently. 

Mark arrives from the Center.

bro says, "I'm interested in the interplay of text and image in the 
web...tell me about Expression."

MichaelO arrives from the Center.

Rusche says, "As I was saying before I was told no one was listening: 
Mark suggested that I point out this page to you." 

Rusche points out a Web page with the title 'Netscape: Shakespeare Globe 
USA start page' http://ampere.scale.uiuc.edu/shakespeare/ 

@@who

Player name	Last Login From Where
-----------	---------- ----------
% Carole (#381)	Apr 20 1996 anx51-77.dialup.emory.edu
RobertC (#808)	Apr 20 1996 cs117-16.u.washington.edu
Curran (#838)	Apr 20 1996 DEPT.ENGLISH.UPENN.EDU
Mark (#751)	Apr 20 1996 englab26.english.emory.edu
SusanA (#841)	Apr 20 1996 englab28.english.emory.edu
Rusche (#837)	Apr 20 1996 english8.english.emory.edu
% Juggler (#243)	Apr 20 1996 lccwest214.skiles.gatech.edu
guest (#235)	Apr 20 1996 ronell.ucet.ufl.edu
bro (#811)	Apr 20 1996 ronell.ucet.ufl.edu
SamanthaW (#812) Apr 20 1996 vm.temple.edu MichaelO (#827) Apr 20 1996 
white.stcatz.ox.ac.uk 

% == programmer.


>>>bro, Rusche, and Juggler are the current speakers. 

You say, "thats an interesting page"

"btw: for all who joined as later: I am now moderator. If you want to 
speak use the command {request} first and when you are done {yield} to 
other people waiting to speak, 5 people can speak at the same time You 
say, "btw: for all who joined as later: I am now moderator. If you want 
to speak use the command {request} first and when you are done {yield} to 
other people waiting to speak, 5 people can speak at the same time" 

look
The Plenary Room
This is the plenary meeting room. Conference participants come together 
in this room for moderated discussions. One person is the moderator. You 
can become moderator using the command {moderate} and you can resign 
using {unmoderate}.
What does the moderator do? In this room only a limited number of people 
can talk at the same time. In order to say or emote something use the 
command {request} and the room will tell you when it is your turn to 
speak. Stop talking using {yield}. If you talk too long the moderator can 
force you to yield using {yield <playername>}. To see who is currently 
speaking use {speakers}. To see who is waiting to speak use {waiting}. 
BTW: You can whisper or page without having to request permission.
A door leads [out] to the conference center in the [east]. 

MichaelO is here. Carole, bro, SamanthaW, Rusche, and Mark are 
distracted. Curran is daydreaming. A guest is dozing. re

Carole says, " Notice that this is a team effort--with many different 
people having diff skills involved."

You say, "I just notice the link to the "donor's room" does that have a 
strange ring to it or is that only my perception...?" 

RobertC arrives from the Center.

Mark says, "iwas talking with rusche a little earlier about the textual 
reliability issue..."

Carole says, " Yes--but also indicates the increasing importance of 
fund-raising to English depts."

Mark says, "do you think we can really "review" the web without losing 
it's greatest utility- copiousness?"
speakers

Carole says, " Although at this point, it's so copious as to be 
unmanageable. I think reviewing/regulating the Web is inevitable as the 
Web community becomes more heterogeneous." 

Mark says, "so I guess I'm really wondering where our notions of 
"reliable" texts is heading"

look
The Plenary Room
This is the plenary meeting room. Conference participants come together 
in this room for moderated discussions. One person is the moderator. You 
can become moderator using the command {moderate} and you can resign 
using {unmoderate}.
What does the moderator do? In this room only a limited number of people 
can talk at the same time. In order to say or emote something use the 
command {request} and the room will tell you when it is your turn to 
speak. Stop talking using {yield}. If you talk too long the moderator can 
force you to yield using {yield <playername>}. To see who is currently 
speaking use {speakers}. To see who is waiting to speak use {waiting}. 
BTW: You can whisper or page without having to request permission.
A door leads [out] to the conference center in the [east]. 

Carole, bro, Curran, Mark, and RobertC are here. SamanthaW, Rusche, and 

MichaelO are daydreaming. A guest is dozing. 

ro says, "The site provides students with a variety of scholars and 
points of view. Students get a sense of what an academic community is 
about."" speakers

>>>Rusche, Carole, RobertC, and SamanthaW are the current speakers. 

SamanthaW says, "Wouldn't regulation entail commercialization?" 

Carole says, " Well, reliable in our sense of exact duplication is a 
relatively new notion, permitted by what were then new technologies for 
reproducing texts--and maybe now new techs will force us to reduce our 
commitment to exactitude"

SusanA arrives from the Center.

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RobertC says, "Isn't reviewing necessary if we are going to maintain a 
notion of rigor -- one that the "lay" world might think of as pedantry. " 


MichaelO says, "why reduce and not increase our commitment to exactitute 
since we now have more versions of the same text (say Coleridge's 
*Rime*)?" 

Mark says, "we're sort of caught in the middle now, aren't we. How do you 
use web info in a traditional dissertation that ends up on real paper and 
gets judged by old standards of accuracy?" 


MichaelO says, "How long before you submit your paper on a web page?!" 

< Apprentice has disconnected. Total: 11 > speakers

>>>Rusche, Carole, RobertC, MichaelO, and Curran are the current 
speakers. 

Carole says, " But if we're acknowledging multiple versions of texts, how 
does that change notions of exactitude--seems implicitly to say that we 
cannot be exact"

JJJJugglers communication wristwatch chimes softly. <<< 
< pasta has connected. Total: 12 >

pasta arrives from the Center.

Rusche says, "Let me summarize what I said to Mark earlier: We do need 
reliable texts, and I think someday we will have repositories where we 
submit texts that are "standard" and tha"Sorry--my hands got ahead of my 
brain! Anyhow, regardless of what is out on the WWW, we will know that 
texts retrieved from Toronto, Oxford, Emory, Harvard, Yale, etc. will be 
accurate and "scholarly." "


Carole says, " So, then place of origin will be the stamp of 
approval--not so different than now. But, what do you think Harry about 
our notions of "exactness"--of completely accurate reproduction--that 
seems a notion that is outdated."

MichaelO says, "but who will decide what a "standard" text is, and how?" 
waiting

RobertC says, "Exactly - what are the "old" notions of accuracy, and just 
what "new" standards" have made them outdated?" 

bro says, " Mark, can't we think of the web as a place to bat about ideas 
that later may or maynot be be published. And perhaps authorship should 
be rethought."